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I'm not a homophobe - I'm not afraid of gay people. I don't hate them. I don't want them to all die in car wrecks. I do have my limitations, though...

1) I don't like them hitting on me.
2) I don't like them being persistant with me after I draw my line in the sand by telling them I don't bat that way.
3) I don't like the over-the-top flamboyant ones that want equality while screaming about how GAY and DIFFERENT they are.

Truth of the matter is I have a couple gay guys I know and I'm completely fine with them - they're not screaming about Gay Pride and they don't bring the issue up at all. If we're all sitting around playing Rock Band or something you can find them cuddled up on the couch, stroking the others forearm... and, again, I'm fine with that.

What I think people need to realize is, like your brother, if a gay person is born that way then they're not normal. They are abnormal in that respect and gays and their supporters need to come to grips with that fact. If their abnormality prevents them from joining the military then so be it. People get denied for all kinda shit... might be too stupid, bad eyesight, bad hygiene, a disease, etc. "But Eturnal, liking Dick doesn't make someone a bad soldier." If it's going to hurt recruitment, retention and morale then it isn't about that gay soldier, it's about their effect on the military's performance.




Eh, you left out a key part of my argument... but that's k.

Oh, and if you have such problems with the girls you fall for, lower your standards because obviously you're too low for theirs.

Maybe if you stopped dressing like such a slut the fagboys wouldn't hit on you?

lol but seriously, I've been hit on by gay dudes before...it makes me uncomfortable sure, but I straight up tell them I don't play for their team, and they drop it (shocking gay people would be persistent with you...i mean, it's not like you will change your mind).



Normal is just a word...what the hell does normal even mean? I'm not normal. Are you? If you answer yes, you are a liar.

In any case, you want gay people to go around saying "oh, I have a genetic defect and so I like dudes...I'm abnormal"

Do you realize how bigoted that sounds?

That's like those crazy ass jesus camps that try to rehabilitate gay people and make them straight. It's fucked up. There is NOTHING WRONG with someone who wants to bang someone else of the same sex. They aren't abnormal freaks of genetics...they are just different from you, and you are defining yourself as "normal" I would never define myself in such a way.

Normal is lame.

Normal is just a word... sure... but normal is normal. My son has twelve toes. It makes him unique and polydactylism may be natural, and more common than I would have though, but I understand it's not normal. Why? Most people aren't born with extra toes.

Because my son is abnormal in that regard, I'm not saying we should throw him in the pit with all the other 10+ toed kids and light it on fire. I'm now suggesting we do that with gays, either.

This is the same political correctness that is destroying our country and you're a huge part of it. You want to protect homosexuals for being what they are (homosexuals) and in your effort, you're making a bigger issue out of it than there should be. They're ABNORMAL. Get over that fact.

I see. Well make sure your son grows up as normal as possible. I suggest you buy him a prostitute at age 12, or at least start showing him heterosexual porn. Gotta make sure he doesn't choose to be gay!

Do you think your kid should never be allowed to enlist in the army because he's defective?

Nope. Just for you I'm going to enroll him in some pretty-miss-princess pageant at age 3, paint his toe nails, make sure he attends ballet practice on a weekly basis and has playdates and tea parties with the girls in the neighborhood. To ensure he doesn't like guys, I'll never watch Football again because he has to be abnormal and gay just so all the other abnormal and gay kids don't feel abnormal and gay and stuff.


His defect will be fixed in a month or two when we get those toes cut off.

Still, if he had a defect that prevented him (or others) from performing to the best of their abilities then I wouldn't care if he was barred from joining.

So you think being a homosexual is unable/makes others unable to perform their job in the military, or are you just arguing it for no reason?

I think I've been pretty clear on my position about DA/DT - I don't care if it's repealed unless it hurts recruitment, retention and morale. When morale is down, soldiers don't perform as well. This is where my concern lies.

Instead of being so fast with this maybe they should take their time and give a date four years out from the moment they decide to repeal DA/DT for the gays to join up - That should give enough time for those who are currently serving to not re-enlist, thinning the ranks of those who truly have a problem with it. Maybe there should be a clause giving those who do have a problem with it the chance to be discharged under an uncharacterized (honorable if you ranked eight years of service) discharge.

General Casey suggests ending the practice legislatively so that a program can be put in place to phase the rule out. That's the plan. If nothing is done da/dt is going to be overturned by the courts and it will be the immediate apocalypse homophobes seem to think will bring blood from the sky.

If you're fine with your gay friends, why do you find it so hard to accept that maybe other gay people are like them, and not like the flaming cock-hungry dudes in your nightmares?

Dvergar /
Quisling

General Casey can suggest whatever he wants but, ultimately, it's not going to be his call... is it?

And I'm sure there are a lot of other gay people who are like my friends... and then there are a lot of the type I don't like, too. The issue isn't about me and your perception of me hating all gay people except my friends - the issue is how gays integrating into the military may effect performance. Keep up.

clearly eturnals persistence is just the result of him being in some films while in college that he'd like to forget

CLEARLY

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sunshine.kittens.bubblegum.happythoughts

Well, let me know when you actually make any points about that.



I agree, the military is making an issue about it. If da/dt wasn't policy, it wouldn't be an issue. You're right, they just need to get over it.

Dvergar /
Quisling

How about those who want to kick gays to the curb "get over the fact" that they're bigoted then? Because, you are. GET OVER IT.

If you don't have the balls to serve alongside gays, get the fuck out of the military. If there is a mass exodus due to da/dt being repealed, then all the better. If the military is weaker because of this, then we all know who to blame (the bigots, just to clarify for the ignorant an uneducated people reading this) when we are attacked and can't fend off enemies because they didn't want their peepee looked at.

Seriously, it's easier to deal with a gay man hitting on you than an ugly girl hitting on you - at least you can say you're not gay. And believe me, not a single one of us here is attractive enough to make a gay man persist. And if there is, it's a fucking compliment. He's not going to rape you, you homophobic morons.

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i got hit on by this very-much-not-attractive girl in my networking class
clearly women should not be allowed to openly serve in the military

edit: also, my sister had this creepster hitting on her via-texts for a long time
straight dudes should thus not be allowed to serve, too

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sunshine.kittens.bubblegum.happythoughts

A handful of soldiers raped a 15 year old iraqi girl and killed her family. Clearly these few soldiers doing something reprehensible means all soldiers are equally reprehensible.

Dvergar /
Quisling